In this engaging and articulate interview, Pema explores the concept of "shempa", how we get hooked into habitual ways of dealing with the world, ways that are not in sync with our desire to be happy and content. She speaks about working with "groundlessness' and how becoming more comfortable with the fluid nature of the universe and abandoning our more rigid perspective can reduce personal and global suffering. She distinguishes the difference between suffering and pain and articulates how not to use "kerosene to put out the fire". There is great hope for the direction of mankind in her belief that all beings are capable of awakening, and that it is through working skillfully with negativity that we can accomplish this. 
Follow the link for a Bill Moyers interview with the abbess of Gampo Abbey in Nova Scotia
http://www.pemachodronfoundation.org/bill-moyers-with-pema-chdrn/
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